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sljivovica
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Post by sljivovica »

Yeah Camel, your arguments against this idea don't make any sense :roll:
How about this: some people can email at their work, but can not access the internet because the IT-people don't want people to browse instead of work :evil: . For those people this would be great too....
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Post by Kameel »

sljivovica wrote:Yeah Camel, your arguments against this idea don't make any sense :roll:
How about this: some people can email at their work, but can not access the internet because the IT-people don't want people to browse instead of work :evil: . For those people this would be great too....
I KNOW what you are talking about
But what in godsname would yo do with it
You open your mailbox
4 new socceproject mails
1: Boarding available
2: Higher offer on player... by team...
3: friendly invitation
4:boarding available

great, now I have this information, BUT WHAT NEXT
don't pressure the server(s) too much when its not needed guys
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Post by robborover »

Kameel wrote:
sljivovica wrote:Yeah Camel, your arguments against this idea don't make any sense :roll:
How about this: some people can email at their work, but can not access the internet because the IT-people don't want people to browse instead of work :evil: . For those people this would be great too....
I KNOW what you are talking about
But what in godsname would yo do with it
You open your mailbox
4 new socceproject mails
1: Boarding available
2: Higher offer on player... by team...
3: friendly invitation
4:boarding available

great, now I have this information, BUT WHAT NEXT
don't pressure the server(s) too much when its not needed guys
sljivovica has a good point plus at least then you would know that you need to login to sp.

plus it wouldn't over stress the servers :wink:

instead of seeing the negatives why you add to the idea?
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Post by Kameel »

Well ok, i can agree to this:
Whenever you got a message on SP, you get a mail with youve got new messages
just one
to tell you need to log in

it WOULD stress the servers if they have to send it to 8000ppl
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Post by Arkzein »

Isn't it enough that some people would welcome the idea even if you do not? ;)

Thinking on the stress issue, given it would be a SPFA feature I'm sure the cost is more than covered by the subscription (and the fact that many of the SPFA members won't even use it). Though if you look at it on the basis of extra SPFA subscriptions gained with the addition of the feature it may not work out so great, depends on your perspective but I'm sure complex economics dosen't come into feature decisions. ;)

Basically extending the match reports, add extra options. A form where you could tick some boxes and recieve not just match reports but selected emails etc. (If really worried about stress send all new messages in a single email after a simulation perhaps).

Sounds like a reasonably simple addition with no negatives though, admittedly, only lmarginal positives for some.
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Post by sljivovica »

Kameel wrote: But what in godsname would yo do with it
You open your mailbox
4 new socceproject mails

1: Boarding available
2: Higher offer on player... by team...
3: friendly invitation
4:boarding available

great, now I have this information, BUT WHAT NEXT
don't pressure the server(s) too much when its not needed guys
Now that is a good argument :wink:
I wouldn't want to have a message for every SP-mesage I get.

But it's easy to solve, like Akrzein said. Get all this info into 1 mail instead of 4. You can even give the managers the option to get a mail after every simulation, or only once a day, after the 04:00 simulation.

Sjarel already gave all managers the option to receive a mail per day, so it's probably not too much stress...
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S20..: A!! (12th)
S21 - S22: B.2
S23..: A!! (15e)
S24-26: B.2 (12e)
S27 & onwards: C-division and lower.
Currently (S41): E.45
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Post by Kameel »

Arkzein wrote:(and the fact that many of the SPFA members won't even use it)
There we go, so what's the use in continuing to argue?
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Post by sljivovica »

Kameel wrote:
Arkzein wrote:(and the fact that many of the SPFA members won't even use it)
There we go, so what's the use in continuing to argue?

Haha :roll:
The fact that lots of managers won't need it doesn't mean it is a bad idea.
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Currently (S41): E.45
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Post by robborover »

sljivovica wrote: Sjarel already gave all managers the option to receive a mail per day, so it's probably not too much stress...
exactly! at least someone is listening! :wink:

just because you won't use it doesn't mean that nobody will! :evil:

as said earlier some people can't sit and play the game all day and a quick email to update them on the days events would help. :P
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Post by Arkzein »

Kameel wrote:
Arkzein wrote:(and the fact that many of the SPFA members won't even use it)
There we go, so what's the use in continuing to argue?
Because some will use it? And it seems a relatively simple addition. Like I said when you've no negatives and some (though minor) positives where is the problem?
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Post by robborover »

yeah just run a mail script once a day to send it all. it's just a slight addition to what you receive every game anyway.
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Post by zilviukas »

actually it could even come together with match reports in the same email.
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Post by Kameel »

when 200 of the 14000 managers use it, it's not worth adding it

im not saying its a BAD idea btw, oh wait, i am :D
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Post by Arkzein »

Kameel wrote:when 200 of the 14000 managers use it, it's not worth adding it
... unless it's relatively simple to add, which I imagine it would be. ;) (Or taking the train of thought into a more general sense if the benefit was major for the fraction, though that isn't the case this time it would defeat the point as a sweeping general statement)

Hard to find an argument against something if it has no negatives, those being server stress and implementation time which would both appear to be neglible and outweighed by those (however few) who would welcome the addition.
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