neutral ground.

smithy91 · Post by **smithy91** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:15 pm

Yeh, i dont quite get ya either vincent

vincent · Post by **vincent** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:29 pm

robborover wrote:not really. surely on a neutral ground neither team is "at home"? this makes it a fair contest.

I'm talking about the forfait games.

I've a teams pitch is to low then he must give forfait.
But if he rent a neatral stadion then he is the home team.
So..

Now you know??

lee400 · Post by **lee400** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:20 pm

umm... you do not call that home team? Are you British?

just asking. Not being harsh or anything.

And, I think we are starting to go off topic here. Please don't. I do not want this topic ingored by the sp developer. I would like a solution from him. And in order to do this, we must keep on track.

vincent · Post by **vincent** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:35 pm

lee400 wrote:umm... you do not call that home team? Are you British? just asking. Not being harsh or anything.

And, I think we are starting to go off topic here. Please don't. I do not want this topic ingored by the sp developer. I would like a solution from him. And in order to do this, we must keep on track.

I'm from Holland.
Don't you see my bad english.

smithy91 · Post by **smithy91** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:05 pm

And he supports Ajax! No non dutch people would do such a thing

lee400 · Post by **lee400** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:59 pm

i see. But sjarel does not seem to have any interests in what I posted. Maybe neutral ground is too complicated?

m4gor · Post by **m4gor** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:56 am

I think that neutral ground is BAD idea, reasons?
1. to rent a stadium for friendlies is completely useless, league and SP cup is played in the same time.
2. enable to cheat easily.
3. it is big change of whole game system with ending which is not clear.
..
4. it is VERY VERY HARD TO IMPLEMENT, as a programmer i can say that this is big goal with small revenue.

p.s. sorry about my english i am not from the UK

Blue · Post by **Blue** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:24 pm

m4gor wrote:I think that neutral ground is BAD idea, reasons?
1. to rent a stadium for friendlies is completely useless, league and SP cup is played in the same time.
2. enable to cheat easily.
3. it is big change of whole game system with ending which is not clear.
..
4. it is VERY VERY HARD TO IMPLEMENT, as a programmer i can say that this is big goal with small revenue.

p.s. sorry about my english i am not from the UK

I'm a programmer, and I fail to see the difficulty that you do. All you do is play the game with no home advantage and then substitute the statistics in from the stadium of choice. Simple.

m4gor · Post by **m4gor** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:51 am

I'm a programmer, and I fail to see the difficulty that you do. All you do is play the game with no home advantage and then substitute the statistics in from the stadium of choice. Simple.

hey man, there would have to be a system of ordering stadium, and you have to control whether is stadium empty or not, system of payments .. How would you count number of visitors (both teams fan bases?) and what about price of ticket, both managers should agree with a price, shouldn't they?
What you wrote is just a small part of solution.

lee400 · Post by **lee400** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:20 am

m4gor wrote:I think that neutral ground is BAD idea, reasons?
1. to rent a stadium for friendlies is completely useless, league and SP cup is played in the same time.
2. enable to cheat easily.
3. it is big change of whole game system with ending which is not clear.
..
4. it is VERY VERY HARD TO IMPLEMENT, as a programmer i can say that this is big goal with small revenue.

p.s. sorry about my english i am not from the UK

for heavon SAKE!!! did you even read my posts, and are just repeating what has been mentioned, or are you just messing around?

1. You may find it useless, but some people do agree with my idea. So dont just be so selfish. (HAS BEEN MENTIONED 100000 TIMES)
2. I did mention around 20k and no more, no less, I am sure hardly anybody will cheat for 20k. (HAS BEEN MENTIONED 100000 TIMES)
3. Its not a big change of the WHOLE game! If you borrow someone's stadium, does it change the whole of soccerproject??? I do not think so! HAS BEEN MENTIONED 100000000000000000 TIMES!
4. Read what has been mentioned first. You obviously have not bothered to read whats been mentioned and just try to show off. You are not cool, so stop it.

BLUE!!!!!! But if you play at your home, you get more income, more fans support your team, and you get advantage. So, renting makes it fair. 50:50 income, equal fans, etc!

... m4gor, YOU will choose to lend your stadium or not. then, there will be a page, or a list of available stadiums to rent, and people will confirm if they wish to rent it. This could also take place if your pitch status is low, and is being replaced. Get it? And please please do read the posts.

Vaciux · Post by **Vaciux** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:31 am

well in Lithuania there is one team, which doesn't have a stadium of it's own, the team is from a small town and they play home games in a stadium in another city, they rent it

Blue · Post by **Blue** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:02 pm

m4gor wrote:
I'm a programmer, and I fail to see the difficulty that you do. All you do is play the game with no home advantage and then substitute the statistics in from the stadium of choice. Simple.
hey man, there would have to be a system of ordering stadium, and you have to control whether is stadium empty or not, system of payments .. How would you count number of visitors (both teams fan bases?) and what about price of ticket, both managers should agree with a price, shouldn't they?
What you wrote is just a small part of solution.

Most of that is already taken into account with current stadia. It's simply a matter of substituting in different values. Rather than 90%/10% as it may be for normal games, make it 50/50. And the price of the ticket would simply be what the owner of the stadium has set it for that particular type of game.

You're trying to make this way more difficult than it needs to be.

lee400 · Post by **lee400** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:04 pm

no, I am just trying to make it more realistic and fun

m4gor · Post by **m4gor** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:37 pm

i disagree with you lee400.
If you make the price of renting 20K => that wouldnt be profitable for lender => almost noone would lend a stadium => you would make option that noone would use.
i would say that its like that:
lending profitable => cheating
lending not profitable => noone lend you his stadium
and lee please dont be rude to people with different opinion

i am sure there are things in SP which are more important and interesting than neutral ground.

Blue · Post by **Blue** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:32 pm

lee400 wrote:no, I am just trying to make it more realistic and fun

I wasn't talking to you. Read the post and you'll see I'm quoting m4gor