neutral ground.

Benjamin · Post by **Benjamin** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:14 am

Also another solution:

Every division (A, B.1, B.2,B.3,C.1, G.7xx) has his own default stadium, based on the average of stadium capacity that the 16 teams in that division have. That stadium will be available for the 16 teams in the division, the same in all the other divisions. It's logic that a stadium in A will be bigger then in G.708 (just for example).

lee400 · Post by **lee400** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:33 pm

robborover! you have hit the jackpot! "Teams with better stadiums earn more money". Is this not true in real life? Cup finals in the UK takes place in Millenium stadium or Old Trafford and not in Dean Park Stadium (AFC Bournemouth). So, all this will be unfair for new teams, but in fact, it is the case in real life. Have you realised that I mentioned that SOCCERPROJECT WILLHOPEFULLY BECOME MORE AND MORE REALSITIC?! This is it! And maybe, lending stadiums should earn owners less money. Maybe tax them? Or extra fee for damage or cleaning?

Benjamin, you are making Soccerproject more unrealistic...

I said my route up to A is harder than most other routes. So I wanted to move divisions. However, if 1 G division has a better quality stadium than another G league, then, the unfairness increases. And in sp, fairness I believe is very important.
And if you mean there should be a stadium for the whole G, you are talking *****. It will be fully booked and you do know that allowing 10000 games at the same time in the same stadium is never going to happen.

robborover · Post by **robborover** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:37 pm

lee400 wrote:robborover! you have hit the jackpot! "Teams with better stadiums earn more money". Is this not true in real life? Cup finals in the UK takes place in Millenium stadium or Old Trafford and not in Dean Park Stadium (AFC Bournemouth). So, all this will be unfair for new teams, but in fact, it is the case in real life. Have you realised that I mentioned that SOCCERPROJECT WILLHOPEFULLY BECOME MORE AND MORE REALSITIC?! This is it! And maybe, lending stadiums should earn owners less money. Maybe tax them? Or extra fee for damage or cleaning?

how much is it to hire out ewood park then?

yeah bigger teams should make more money with bigger grounds. but this exposes lots of ways to cheat your system to make easy money. sp should be about winning games not loaning out your ground, making money and buying players.

modes98's revenge · Post by **modes98's revenge** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:04 pm

lee400 wrote:robborover! you have hit the jackpot! "Teams with better stadiums earn more money". Is this not true in real life? Cup finals in the UK takes place in Millenium stadium or Old Trafford and not in Dean Park Stadium (AFC Bournemouth).

Finals are held at non club stadiums normally. AS you say Millenium Stadium or Wembley and in future the semi's aswell. This means that no team benefits or feels the problems of having games at their ground. Would it not be easier to have 50,000 seater independant stadiums which are given out to games that deserve them and then just forget ones that don't.

robborover · Post by **robborover** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:35 pm

modes98's revenge wrote:
lee400 wrote:robborover! you have hit the jackpot! "Teams with better stadiums earn more money". Is this not true in real life? Cup finals in the UK takes place in Millenium stadium or Old Trafford and not in Dean Park Stadium (AFC Bournemouth).
Finals are held at non club stadiums normally. AS you say Millenium Stadium or Wembley and in future the semi's aswell. This means that no team benefits or feels the problems of having games at their ground. Would it not be easier to have 50,000 seater independant stadiums which are given out to games that deserve them and then just forget ones that don't.

that's what i said modes. have a default stadium of different sizes.

modes98's revenge · Post by **modes98's revenge** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:07 pm

robborover wrote:that's what i said modes. have a default stadium of different sizes.

Don't get your knickers in a twist bobinson. Just because i am better at explaining myself

lee400 · Post by **lee400** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:28 am

robborover, I have mentioned a rough estimate earlier. Also, I do know sp is about winning games, but I also think that sp is about being able to manage a whole club and not just the lineup. In the intro of sp, it says "you take over a footy club and look after it", and the sp title is CAN YOU MANAGE IT. It does not say "you get to manage the starting 11 and win...". In addition, the title does not say CAN YOU MANAGE THE LINE UP. And sp I think is also about buying players and making money. Without money, how are you going to ever replace your old players?????? And without new players, how is your team ever going to improve when your players are fully trained?????

you can't!!!!!! The way you wrote sounds as if we are plaing a rubbish game...

Modes, your idea is already mentioned 10000000000 times. How is that idea ever going to bloody work!? 100000 teams playing in a same stadium at the same time!? Or 50000 Millenium stadiums!? I DONT THINK SO! And how are you going to see whether they deserve a stadium or not? By quality? then the G league teams will NEVER get a chance to play in a stadium! HUH!? Make some sense PLEASE!

Sorry if I am going a litle aggressive today, but I think I am answering questions and statements that do not make ANY sense.

robborover · Post by **robborover** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:48 am

lee400 wrote: Modes, your idea is already mentioned 10000000000 times. How is that idea ever going to bloody work!? 100000 teams playing in a same stadium at the same time!? Or 50000 Millenium stadiums!? I DONT THINK SO! And how are you going to see whether they deserve a stadium or not? By quality? then the G league teams will NEVER get a chance to play in a stadium! HUH!? Make some sense PLEASE!

calm down lee. all you do is make default stadiums. divide the earnings from tickets 50:50. no ground needs to exist as such. the stadium capacity can be worked out by looking at both clubs fanbases. obviously 2 g teams with fanbases of 5,000 each are not going to sell out a 50,000 stadium, which is why you would need different levels.

modes98 wrote:Don't get your knickers in a twist bobinson. Just because i am better at explaining myself

Aye that may be true, but i am still the brains of this operation

vincent · Post by **vincent** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:12 am

The cheaters got a new point to get money.

You lend youre stadium for 5 matches to the same team and then youve already got 2.5 miljon.

But i like it to.

modes98's revenge · Post by **modes98's revenge** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:57 am

vincent wrote:You lend youre stadium for 5 matches to the same team and then youve already got 2.5 miljon.

It's like a cash point, roll on the money! Robbo do you want to borrow my stadium

"50000 Millenium stadiums" no not all with the same name, Generic Stadium 1, Generic Stadium 2. It is unlikely there will ever be that many cup finals at once. With only 15513 users it's not that difficult to do.

robborover · Post by **robborover** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:12 am

modes98's revenge wrote:
vincent wrote:You lend youre stadium for 5 matches to the same team and then youve already got 2.5 miljon.
It's like a cash point, roll on the money! Robbo do you want to borrow my stadium

sounds good to me. i need some cash. you can borrow mine all your want mate.

think about it if i played 3 games a day and loaned the other 2 games out and also loaned the ground out on weekends thats 20 games a week. so according to lee i'd make $10,000,000 a week. RESULT!

so lee as i said earlier; don't you think that would affect the sp economy slightly?

modes98's revenge · Post by **modes98's revenge** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:09 pm

Forget that robbo i'm loaning my stadium out every game! I can have a world elite 11 in a week or 2!

robborover · Post by **robborover** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:12 pm

yeah rest all my players for a week then buy loads of 90% players. eat that e division lol. lee i love your idea!

elari · Post by **elari** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:41 pm

hmm.. but can anybody tell me, who will borow the stadium for money, if they have their own?

robborover · Post by **robborover** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:47 pm

elari wrote:hmm.. but can anybody tell me, who will borow the stadium for money, if they have their own?

to have a neutral venue. like in finals and semifinals. seems a bit silly to me though.