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Retrain player

Post by SBroccoli » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:21 am

I don't know if this has been suggested before (it probably has), but anyway, here's perhaps a new angle on it: allow re-training of players to fit them into a new position. This happens in RL and I think it would be a cool feature in SP under certain limits.

My idea would be to allow retraining a player to a new position at the expense of resetting his abilities in the core fields of his new position (e.g. if you retrain someone for CB, his skills in heading and tackling should be reset).

This means you'll have to train the retrained player for a while before you can effectively use him in a new position. There's got to be some penalty ofc.

The point is that sometimes you can have a player with good tackling skills who is playing midfield. Would be awfully nice to move him to defense if you're short on CBs. Etc.

My suggestion would be to limit possible retraining to:

SW<=>CB
LB<=>LM
RB<=>RM
CB<=>CM
LM<=>LF
RM<=>RF
CM<=>CF

GK: no retraining.

But I'd also limit retraining to once per player.

So you cannot for example go:

LB=>LM=>LF .

The reason why I suggest something like left side players staying on the left is because I seem to read that the center field players are the most expensive. So it would probably mess up the transfer market if all kinds of players could be made center field players.

There could also be other penalties introduced. Like loss of morale or a monetary cost or something.
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Post by keyelpk » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:42 am

good idea. especialy for SW. [for SW i think is good to be able to go GK]

maybe the age can be restricted, the player even can lose >50% morale, to pay the coach extra, and why-not only maxed players to be allowed to change position?
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Post by Jeffrey S. » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:21 pm

I think you also need to have the follow moves:
RB <=> CB
LB <=> CB
RM <=> CM
LM <=> CM
RF <=> CF
LF <=> CF

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Re: Retrain player

Post by Zé da Silva » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:12 pm

@Jeff:
SBroccoli wrote:The reason why I suggest something like left side players staying on the left is because I seem to read that the center field players are the most expensive. So it would probably mess up the transfer market if all kinds of players could be made center field players.

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Post by terry » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:10 pm

Why not? I like this idea. :wink:
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Post by squarcina » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:29 pm

good idea. It could be a correction of the fact that your youth centre never raises a CM, but always a CF...

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Post by YouKnowWho » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:19 pm

Very good idea. I liked it. It'll bring some tactical thinking for the managers.

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Post by sljivovica » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:39 pm

I really like it...

I do wonder about 1 thing.

All three groups (DEF/MID/ATT) have 1 unique skill:
Defenders: Play it out
Midfielders: Playmaking
Attackers: Insight

So if you switch from one group to the other, you can keep those skills that are in both groups, but this 1 skill will go away and you have to train from 0 on the new skill, not knowing how good it will become.

Hmmm.... Now that I think about it, this makes it even more interesting.

I love this idea!! :P
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Post by keyelpk » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:39 am

so SW can not get retrained, if we apply sljiv's idea :)
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Post by SBroccoli » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:17 am

Why not?
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Post by keyelpk » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:56 am

SWs don't have unique skill, they have the same unique skill as other defenders.

so, if the unique skill is nulled, also the old & new headskills shall get nulled.

sadly, i think SW don't have a future in this game, on the current stage...
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Post by 02knowlesm » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:06 am

Gd idea

But would the players still be able to play as their original position or not?
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Post by SBroccoli » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:04 pm

02knowlesm wrote:Gd idea

But would the players still be able to play as their original position or not?
Ehm...no? The whole idea was to retrain them for a new ideal position. They will 'forget' their old position. I.e. you shouldn't be able to use them in two positions. Otherwise retraining will become a nobrainer.

Keyelpk: I don't see how that changes the option to retrain SWs. It just means their tackling, heading and whatnot is going to be reset and then they emerge as a CB.

Btw.: does anyone happen to know if Sjarel ever considers all these suggestions? Let alone, does he read them at all?
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Post by bunicutzu » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:11 pm

consider the new features that are coming almost every season ... i guess he does consider this side of the forum. but not every idea is good, after the debates he decides taking in consideration also the possibility of implementation of an good idea.

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Post by keyelpk » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:48 am

leave sjarel alone. i don't think he prefers to read the posts of a bunch of crybabies? he has got only one to look after now!
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