Cup for Leagues

Randall Rovers · Post by **Randall Rovers** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:54 am

Had a thought.

I was wondering, there is a cup where everybody enters into it and the winner usually comes form the higher leagues and the lower league teams don't stand a chance.

So i thought of this idea. Why not create a cup for each ranking league. As well as the Overall SoccerProject Cup.

So all the G league teams would play in one cup. All the F league teams would play in a different cup and so on and so on.

This idea would be great beacuse then it would allow people to win the Soccer Project G League Cup and have something else to aim for.

Its up to the Soccer Project guys. But it is just a suggestion.

joske · Post by **joske** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:15 pm

i agree with that, but i wouldn't do the 'overall soccerproject cup' then, but prehaps that the winners of each 'division cup' can play a cup for the BIG cup

it's just an idea...

Nistelrooy_10 · Post by **Nistelrooy_10** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:00 pm

the thing that can be done, as I've already said, is to make championships of countries, and then will be a cup in every country, it would be much more fun and with more chances of winnings. for example: there could be the leagues of belgium, and then anothers leagues only of portugueses, and another for dutches, etc....

Randall Rovers · Post by **Randall Rovers** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:07 pm

My point is that the league layout is fine. Its just the SoccerProject Cup is only won by the top teams. So in theory clubs from D leagues and below. Do not stand a chance of glory in this cup and therfore only have one thing to aim for and thats the league title. Where as the top teams, A,b. c leagues all compete for league honours as well as Cup honours.

So this suggestion works. So everybody in G leagues can see who the best team in the league is through this cup, and the F leagues can also find out and so on.

Then also keep the soccerproject cup as the big cup to make the game more fun.

So overall you would compete for 3 trophies in a season.

League title.
Soccerproject Cup
AND the new League cup's.

joske · Post by **joske** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:13 pm

if you'll have that much games to play, i think the fitness of the players would become very low.

don't get me wrong, i think this is a good idea , but i'd cut out the soccerproject cup , and only do the division cup

Randall Rovers · Post by **Randall Rovers** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:29 pm

It would not affect fitness. Because at the moment people play friendlies, they just cut them back and play these cups.

The point is the lower the division the more teams so the more rounds to play.

It would just be another cup to aim for and a massive piece of the game.

Overall G Leagues Cup winner.

Or

Overall D Leagues Cup winner.

It would add more spice, competition and make the game more exciting.

budist · Post by **budist** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:53 pm

who plays friendlies with the first team???
i play my first 11 only in league and cup, my players have more than 90% stamina, and i can't keep them in all the matches.

Randall Rovers · Post by **Randall Rovers** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:20 pm

Thats not the point, the point is with the cup. It will allow friendlies to be cut back and more competitive football.

The schedule could look like this.

Monday: League Game
Tuesday: League Game
Wednesday: Soccerproject Cup Games
Thursday: League Game
Friday: League Game
Saturday: New League Cups.
Sunday: Rest day.

See it would only need one more day, so you would play 6 competitive games rather then 5 competitive games. 1 game is not going to hurt your first team performance.

joske · Post by **joske** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:31 pm

Randall Rovers wrote:Thats not the point, the point is with the cup. It will allow friendlies to be cut back and more competitive football.

The schedule could look like this.

Monday: League Game
Tuesday: League Game
Wednesday: Soccerproject Cup Games
Thursday: League Game
Friday: League Game
Saturday: New League Cups.
Sunday: Rest day.

See it would only need one more day, so you would play 6 competitive games rather then 5 competitive games. 1 game is not going to hurt your first team performance.

Ok if it would be like this, i'm absolutely for this suggestion!! but as you allready said, the A-division will be ready a lot sooner than the G- division
but that's not a problem I guess

Randall Rovers · Post by **Randall Rovers** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:33 pm

No because the G league cup games would start earlier then the A leagues and all the leagues. And then they would then come into place. Say when all the leagues, b,c,d,e,f and g leagues get to the last 16. Then the A league cup will start up.

So each round the leagues would come in.

You might say its unfair on the amount of games the G leagues would have to play. But the A leagues have to play the same amount of games to win the SoccerProject cup. So it all works out fair come the end.

Is it possible we could get a opinion off some one who owns and helps the work the site.

As i would be interested in what they have to say.

joske · Post by **joske** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:17 pm

Randall Rovers wrote:No because the G league cup games would start earlier then the A leagues and all the leagues. And then they would then come into place. Say when all the leagues, b,c,d,e,f and g leagues get to the last 16. Then the A league cup will start up.

So each round the leagues would come in.

You might say its unfair on the amount of games the G leagues would have to play. But the A leagues have to play the same amount of games to win the SoccerProject cup. So it all works out fair come the end.

Is it possible we could get a opinion off some one who owns and helps the work the site.

As i would be interested in what they have to say.

of course it's not unfair for the G players because if they play more, they'd get to know the game better, and they would get lots of experience

i hope it would be introduced, but of course it's not me who decide

Peja · Post by **Peja** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:54 pm

Randall Rovers wrote:Thats not the point, the point is with the cup. It will allow friendlies to be cut back and more competitive football.

The schedule could look like this.

Monday: League Game
Tuesday: League Game
Wednesday: Soccerproject Cup Games
Thursday: League Game
Friday: League Game
Saturday: New League Cups.
Sunday: Rest day.

See it would only need one more day, so you would play 6 competitive games rather then 5 competitive games. 1 game is not going to hurt your first team performance.

1 day is going to hurt my first team performance, I can assure you that. It's almost impossible to play both cup and league games with your first team, and you want another cup for the first team?

It's just not possible with only your 1st team. And if everybody plays those games with his backup team, that cup wouldn't be that attractive anymore...

budist · Post by **budist** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:26 pm

i suggest everybody new to play this game at least 2 seasons to understand. Fitness is very hard to mantain, there are a lot of teams that quit the cup from the first round (put their 4-th line-up) just to mantain their chances for the league.

Randall Rovers · Post by **Randall Rovers** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:28 pm

Peja wrote:
Randall Rovers wrote:Thats not the point, the point is with the cup. It will allow friendlies to be cut back and more competitive football.

The schedule could look like this.

Monday: League Game
Tuesday: League Game
Wednesday: Soccerproject Cup Games
Thursday: League Game
Friday: League Game
Saturday: New League Cups.
Sunday: Rest day.

See it would only need one more day, so you would play 6 competitive games rather then 5 competitive games. 1 game is not going to hurt your first team performance.
1 day is going to hurt my first team performance, I can assure you that. It's almost impossible to play both cup and league games with your first team, and you want another cup for the first team?

It's just not possible with only your 1st team. And if everybody plays those games with his backup team, that cup wouldn't be that attractive anymore...

1 extra game, you are joking right?

BobStanley · Post by **BobStanley** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:32 pm

I think a lot of people look at what team they should use for the SP Cup differently. When I was in D, E, & F division. I never used my first team because I didn't have a chance to go very far in the Cup anyway. Why reduce my first team's fitness and chances of winning my next league match. The SP Cup had no meaning for me so I can understand lower divisions wanting a divisional Cup of the thier own. It does not make sense to have an A division Cup because there is only one league in that Division but from B on it makes sense. I like the idea of the top 4 from each division play in the SP Cup. One of the advantages of being in A would be that all 16 teams from A would have an automatic buy in... From that regard, there wouldn't be any more matches a team would have to play than they do now.

For example,

The Soccer project Cup could be run like this;

- Managers from each division (B-G) play each other in thier own division.
- Managers from A are exempt from this phase of the tournament.
- The top 4 or 8 from (B-G) are promoted to the SP Cup. Division Cup winners get a trophy. Maybe even the top 3 from each division get a trophy and instead of 1 SP Cup maybe there are 1st, 2nd, and 3rd SP Cup trophies

Regards,
Bob