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New rules for tournaments

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:23 pm
by Drajmi
I think we have one serious problem on Soccerproject. Some managers with very strong teams establish tournaments with huge starting fee and invite only weak teams from G a H divisions, which are only few days on Soccerproject. These managers have few millions but they don´t know what starting fee is normal.

This strong managers earn millions on inexperienced managers

So I have concept of these rules:
New team cannot enter to tournament in first week (like a trade players)
Every new teams get a message with warning before these shifty managers.

What do you think about this idea?

P.S. Sorry, my english isn´t so good :)

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:47 am
by Vaciux
good idea, because it's not fair that strong teams play against weak teams in FrC with huge registration fee's

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:08 am
by modes98's revenge
If teams don't think they are ready then they shouldn't accept!

You can't protect new managers from everything or they will have nothing to do! It's a learning experience and bare in mind that 4 teams get prize money in tournaments! 8)

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:21 am
by m4gor
i agree with you.

but i would say that Friendly Cups are bad at all, this is not real, managers are not forced to extend stadium and can offer not realistic wages because of friendly cups income. No team in real is financed or co-financed by friendly cups.

So i would say that to set maximum subscription fee like 20 000e would be great and reasonable.
And to not to allow to make invitation to team from lower division.

This has to be changed or i won't play this manager anymore. Because right now its game for thieves not for managers...

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:08 am
by Sjarel
I've now introduced a new message : "The board feels the subscription fee is too high. Only after you have been longer at the club, you will be allowed such a fee."

We'll use this message if a new manager tries to subscribe to an expensive cup during his first weeks.

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:54 pm
by Vaciux
great, this way less new managers will lose money

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:16 pm
by modes98's revenge
Why not just get rid of money totally!

Ridiculas that the game will stop teams making money from FRc's but won't even introduce further filters in the transfer market.

Very Bad Decision! :evil:

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:19 pm
by Vaciux
modes98's revenge wrote:Why not just get rid of money totally!

Ridiculas that the game will stop teams making money from FRc's but won't even introduce further filters in the transfer market.

Very Bad Decision! :evil:
the message is for new teams, not teams that are playing for a long time, read Sjarels message

Thanks

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:30 pm
by SuperKarel
Hallo,
I am opposite this tournaments too. I must many thanks to Drajmi. I diskuse about this problem on Czech forum longer time and it is one of resolutions which is very good.

I would limited starting to these tournaments for example max. to 100 000 too. And message sending for first month of new manager.

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:47 pm
by modes98's revenge
Vaciux wrote:the message is for new teams, not teams that are playing for a long time, read Sjarels message
lol yep i understand Vaciux, i still think that the new managers shouldn't be protected as much as they are! Sure they don't know the game but you can't wrap them in cotton wool!

As when i started they should learn by making mistakes, even if that means starting up a new team.

In my current cup a H league team will get £1m, how is this hurting them. :roll:

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:58 pm
by SuperKarel
lol yep i understand Vaciux, i still think that the new managers shouldn't be protected as much as they are! Sure they don't know the game but you can't wrap them in cotton wool!
It is going about it that on stupid new managers earn money some managers (for me cheaters) and it is inmoral - innormal. Many managers don´t want do it and they are very disadvantaged opposite this "cheaters".

Is normal that many managers can earn money only on new managers? It are not football managers for me... If you are one of them - modes98's revenge so :oops:

It is normall that on one of this "tournaments" you can earn few millions what is more when you earn when you win your league? Accord me it´s very absurd!!!

Stop to goldmines

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:02 pm
by Wolverine
Friendly cup are such goldmine to those from league A,B,C,D. dressing in they big money and thank they may bid hopeful player.
I think, so if was boot choice at settlement cup (possibly radio button) "only for teams from of your league (possibly G) or lower", dramatically would soon change conditions on transfer market, which would lead to very desirable equalization team.
Gamers namely don't care at form tournament is create as enclosure and examine, if invited turn in or no. Obstruct it. Such simple thing would surely wasn't problematic programmed (one parameter at tournament in addition in database and one condition in script at book to the tournament), i. e. work on c. half of hour.
Next thing would was displayed levels of league organizer tournament (and of course if can apply for gamers from higher league). A lot of player would certainly unsigned to the tournament, where haven't real chance win, even if here surely find such, who from A team play and test his group. But behind the geld me it is coming sorrow.
What you thereon?

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:41 pm
by cercel_jr
Sjarel wrote:I've now introduced a new message : "The board feels the subscription fee is too high. Only after you have been longer at the club, you will be allowed such a fee."

We'll use this message if a new manager tries to subscribe to an expensive cup during his first weeks.
I think it's a good ideea, and the new managers will also lurn without making the mistake. He will probably ask somebody to tell him why he cannot play in "lot's of money" tournaments at the begining. Or probably they will ask on the forum for some help and they will get help.
I think it make's the game a litle bit more fair for all managers. :wink:

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:07 pm
by robborover
can't you make it fairer by letting higher teams start up more expensive cups? or limit your maximum fee to a percentage of your money? it's unfair to blanket all managers.

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:00 pm
by Paul_G
I agree that we should just let people play. Restrictions are just gonna make people resentful. In fact, I just quit another online game (after a bit of an altercation on their forums :oops: ) because I got disgusted with all the restrictions I had because I was new.

If a new player is too stupid to realize that participating in a cup with a $1 million signup fee is a bad idea, when they have a total of 1 million in the bank, then there really isn't much to say about that. Players like that are going to mismanage their team no matter what we do.

Anyway, if the player has only been around a few days and makes a mistake like that, they can just delete and create a new team. It's not like they've lost much.

Besides, friendly cups SHOULD be gold mines to A, B, C, and D league managers. If not friendly cups, then something should be. After all, outside of buying and selling players, it's not like upper level teams have any other way of making significant money.