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Ranking
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:17 pm
by Helios
What about this?
1st place - promotes+division cup
2nd place - promotes
3rd place - plays playoffs for promotion
4th - stays in the division
5th - stays
6th - stays
7th - stays
8th - stays
9th - stays
10th - stays
11th - plays playoffs to not to relegate
12th - plays playoffs to not to relegate
13th - relegates
14th - relegates
15th - relegates
16th - relegates
I think its a good idea, would be more action, cuz everyone knows that if they fall from the championship , gets bored. If it happens, everyone will get involved in things and will be more fun
can you manage it?...

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:20 pm
by Paul-X
good idea

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:06 pm
by damien
Great idea! i think this would make the game much more fun and all make the game alot more intresting, and i dont think it would be much of a problem putting this into the game. Great idea

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:12 pm
by kjekspakke
yeah as this change will involve more players this is a good thing right?
but i think it would be more like this to avoid overflood in other divs:
8th - stays
9th - stays
10th - plays playoffs to not to relegate
11th - plays playoffs to not to relegate
12th - relagates
13th - relegates
10 and 11 plays play-off with eacother
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:14 pm
by robborover
i like the way it is. at the moment you get to play a lot of teams every season. this stops the game from getting boring.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:14 pm
by Red_Army_Squad
robborover wrote:i like the way it is. at the moment you get to play a lot of teams every season. this stops the game from getting boring.
Agree, Honestly if you become third your are obviously not good enough for a higher division. So I prefer that my team will stay in the same division, train and win that division the next season!
Re: Ranking
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:35 pm
by Michal Kejchal
Helios wrote:What about this?
1st place - promotes+division cup
2nd place - promotes
3rd place - plays playoffs for promotion
4th - stays in the division
5th - stays
6th - stays
7th - stays
8th - stays
9th - stays
10th - stays
11th - plays playoffs to not to relegate
12th - plays playoffs to not to relegate
13th - relegates
14th - relegates
15th - relegates
16th - relegates
I think its a good idea, would be more action, cuz everyone knows that if they fall from the championship , gets bored. If it happens, everyone will get involved in things and will be more fun
can you manage it?...

Division cup is a great idea

problem is that you cant play more than 6-8 round. League ends on thursday. So there is only interval from friday to another friday. And also SP cup culminates at that time. It means no more than 256 teams can play - no chance for divisions F,G,H.
To playoff - you need 3 teams to play with teams from lower division. And if 2 automatically promotes then 6 automatically relegates. According to your proposal teams on 8.-10. position have to play playoff - dont like this idea

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:01 pm
by Helios
Michal Kejchal wrote:Helios wrote:What about this?
1st place - promotes+division cup
2nd place - promotes
3rd place - plays playoffs for promotion
4th - stays in the division
5th - stays
6th - stays
7th - stays
8th - stays
9th - stays
10th - stays
11th - plays playoffs to not to relegate
12th - plays playoffs to not to relegate
13th - relegates
14th - relegates
15th - relegates
16th - relegates
I think its a good idea, would be more action, cuz everyone knows that if they fall from the championship , gets bored. If it happens, everyone will get involved in things and will be more fun
can you manage it?...

Division cup is a great idea

problem is that you cant play more than 6-8 round. League ends on thursday. So there is only interval from friday to another friday. And also SP cup culminates at that time. It means no more than 256 teams can play - no chance for divisions F,G,H.
To playoff - you need 3 teams to play with teams from lower division. And if 2 automatically promotes then 6 automatically relegates. According to your proposal teams on 8.-10. position have to play playoff - dont like this idea

1. I understand what you mean, but we know that there is a long time between two seasons, so there will be time for F,G,H division teams. What about the boring side of the game, when the season ends and you are a G division team and you relegate, you'll probably leave the game, but if you keep working hard you'll be the 11th or 12th then you will have a chance to not to relegate.
2. You are in an X division and you lost promotion with just a point or I dunno just a game. Then you'll get crazy, I would get crazy. But with this idea, you will have a second chance to promote, maybe just a game or two, I'm not talking about 6 or 8 rounds.
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:48 pm
by Michal Kejchal
Helios wrote:Michal Kejchal wrote:
Division cup is a great idea

problem is that you cant play more than 6-8 round. League ends on thursday. So there is only interval from friday to another friday. And also SP cup culminates at that time. It means no more than 256 teams can play - no chance for divisions F,G,H.
To playoff - you need 3 teams to play with teams from lower division. And if 2 automatically promotes then 6 automatically relegates. According to your proposal teams on 8.-10. position have to play playoff - dont like this idea

1. I understand what you mean, but we know that there is a long time between two seasons, so there will be time for F,G,H division teams. What about the boring side of the game, when the season ends and you are a G division team and you relegate, you'll probably leave the game, but if you keep working hard you'll be the 11th or 12th then you will have a chance to not to relegate.
2. You are in an X division and you lost promotion with just a point or I dunno just a game. Then you'll get crazy, I would get crazy. But with this idea, you will have a second chance to promote, maybe just a game or two, I'm not talking about 6 or 8 rounds.
1) No, there isnt a long time between seasons. There are 8 days (pls dont use suggestive expresions like - "we know that", maybe you know

), for serious tournament no more then 1 game can be played during 1 day (2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2=256). In G there are 729 division winners how do you want to manage this tournament?
Solution should be to play during season in separate tournaments like:
1. A+B+C+D
2. E
3. F
4. G
5. H
Matches should be played on saturday 4:00 (with a possibility to subscribe or not).
2) You wrote: "but if you keep working hard you'll be the 11th or 12th then you will have a chance to not to relegate."
On the other hand - if you keep working hard and finish 2nd then you want to reach promotion without any playoffs.
I my opinion for this game is much more important to have a good chance to promote than to avoid relegation.
3) Everybody plays this game for promotion to reach the top and if somebody gives up playing because of relegation (or lost promotion) its his or her own decision

Re: Ranking
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:17 pm
by Nasko
Helios wrote:What about this?
1st place - promotes+division cup
2nd place - promotes
3rd place - plays playoffs for promotion
4th - stays in the division
5th - stays
6th - stays
7th - stays
8th - stays
9th - stays
10th - stays
11th - plays playoffs to not to relegate
12th - plays playoffs to not to relegate
13th - relegates
14th - relegates
15th - relegates
16th - relegates
I think its a good idea, would be more action, cuz everyone knows that if they fall from the championship , gets bored. If it happens, everyone will get involved in things and will be more fun
can you manage it?...

First of all it is Imposible.. The leagues are like a piramide... If you increase one more place for promoting(or plays playoffs) you should increase with 3 teams relegated (or plays playoffs) from the higher division, becouse the league structure is like a piramide:
One A group - 6 teams relegated
3 B Groups 3 X 2teams = 6 teams promoting, and 3 X 6teams= 18 teams relegated
9 C groups - 9 X 2= 18 teams promoting... etc..
So the promoting teams from lower divisions = relegated teams from a higher
And also I like the league structure as it is...