Quiting players' transfers

PipkiN · Post by **PipkiN** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:03 pm

I want to ask/make dialogue about this problem.
When there is a player leaving SP, whe announces his quit and selling his players. All of this will be all right, even the manager will not sell the player mostly to his friends and far too undervalued.
I think this is too unfair to beginners and to all others, this behaviour boost quiting manager's friends by earning good players and in the consequence can lead into making "farms" for one club.
(Someone invites several his friends, they are managing normally, but selling their youths or best players to the one who invited them).
I think that if someone makes his end, his players should be sold normally on the transfermarket, not to friends undervalued on immediate transfer...

Nasko · Post by **Nasko** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:14 pm

I totaly disagree..
Can you imagine how many new players will be sent on transfer market every day

Average 20-30 managers deleted per day X evarage 30 players = Full transfer market and mostly of those players will be crap

And i do not believe this cheating which you discribed is possible.. How much free time should those friends have? And what kind of freaks should be spending so much time on PC

PipkiN · Post by **PipkiN** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:22 pm

Ok, so not let them go in the transfer market, let them die with the team. I mentioned this here because of some situations, which lead in CZ community to selling those players imto beginning clubs. Manager in first G, then in F announced his quit and then started topic, where others posted which players do they want. He put them onto the transfer list, waited, and then sold them. This is absolutely unfair behaviour and I really do not like transfer such as these were. The quiting manager do not care about money, he sells the players a lot undervalued..

unicool · Post by **unicool** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:02 am

PipkiN wrote:Ok, so not let them go in the transfer market, let them die with the team. I mentioned this here because of some situations, which lead in CZ community to selling those players imto beginning clubs. Manager in first G, then in F announced his quit and then started topic, where others posted which players do they want. He put them onto the transfer list, waited, and then sold them. This is absolutely unfair behaviour and I really do not like transfer such as these were. The quiting manager do not care about money, he sells the players a lot undervalued..

if he is a good player the other managers will see him and bid for him.i wanted to do something like that some weeks ago woth a friend who qiuted SP.i wanted a CF from his team.after 2 days of bidding just before my friend accept the offert the price claimed at 7M and i quit because i only had 3M.so if he is a good player a manager will pay for him a lot of money.

Michal Kejchal · Post by **Michal Kejchal** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:22 am

unicool wrote:
PipkiN wrote:Ok, so not let them go in the transfer market, let them die with the team. I mentioned this here because of some situations, which lead in CZ community to selling those players imto beginning clubs. Manager in first G, then in F announced his quit and then started topic, where others posted which players do they want. He put them onto the transfer list, waited, and then sold them. This is absolutely unfair behaviour and I really do not like transfer such as these were. The quiting manager do not care about money, he sells the players a lot undervalued..
if he is a good player the other managers will see him and bid for him.i wanted to do something like that some weeks ago woth a friend who qiuted SP.i wanted a CF from his team.after 2 days of bidding just before my friend accept the offert the price claimed at 7M and i quit because i only had 3M.so if he is a good player a manager will pay for him a lot of money.

Agree, there are 2 days for bid anyway. And also how could system recognize a player who wants to quit?

Post by **Sjarel** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:33 am

Michal Kejchal wrote:... And also how could system recognize a player who wants to quit?

Exactly, that is not possible.

PipkiN · Post by **PipkiN** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:06 pm

Ok, so let me introduce innovation, which is being discussed on the czech forum.

To avoid these transactions, there have to be posibility to sell the player to the highest offer only. I mean to the highest bidder. Because, why would a manager sell his player to the lower bidder ? If he does not want to quit, he will be very stupid to earn less money

or

he is going to make a deal with his friend, who has less offered, but gave the player higher salary => very unfair behaviour, which can be comprehended as a cheat.

If he wants to quit, here comes only the situation number 2 => he's selling hte player to his friend. So many managers of CZ forum think, that the posibility of selling to the highest bidder only is the right way

unicool · Post by **unicool** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:12 pm

To avoid these transactions, there have to be posibility to sell the player to the highest offer only. I mean to the highest bidder. Because, why would a manager sell his player to the lower bidder ? If he does not want to quit, he will be very stupid to earn less money

you can accept ONLY the highest bid.you cannot accept another one.you can see the last three bids but you can accept only the highest.this feature is implemented from the season 15.so you have to have the highest bid if you want to get that player,and if that player is good you will pay a lot of money because others managers will bid for him and for a good player the bid can raise from a day to another from 1M to 8M.

PipkiN · Post by **PipkiN** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:37 pm

No, unicool, it works as I described - you can choose from two top bids

If you have a player on the transferlist with at least 2 bos, look at it. Go to the menu where you are choosing which bid to accept and you will see you can accept 2 highest bids.

So, it has to be changed I think.. Why would someone accept lower bid ? That is illogical for me..

unicool · Post by **unicool** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:48 pm

PipkiN wrote:No, unicool, it works as I described - you can choose from two top bids
If you have a player on the transferlist with at least 2 bos, look at it. Go to the menu where you are choosing which bid to accept and you will see you can accept 2 highest bids.

So, it has to be changed I think.. Why would someone accept lower bid ? That is illogical for me..

i maked some transfers and i know that i cannot accept another bid than the highest.at me it works like this.i see the last three bids but i can accept only the highest.

PipkiN · Post by **PipkiN** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:53 pm

I have my RB Derych on TL, I have 2 offers and I can accept 200k € and 225k €, too. Then it depends on salary, if I coose 200k € and that manager gave my player better salary, the transfer will be made into his team. This is the way which leads to cheating in transfers.

Nasko · Post by **Nasko** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:57 pm

PipkiN wrote:Ok, so let me introduce innovation, which is being discussed on the czech forum.

To avoid these transactions, there have to be posibility to sell the player to the highest offer only. I mean to the highest bidder. Because, why would a manager sell his player to the lower bidder ? If he does not want to quit, he will be very stupid to earn less money

or

he is going to make a deal with his friend, who has less offered, but gave the player higher salary => very unfair behaviour, which can be comprehended as a cheat.
...

So having friends is cheating...

Come on.. Do you know what does "cheating" mean

I own the player and only i decide what price and to whom should i sell my players

The players are not public property.. So the managers who owns them is the only person who can decide

PipkiN · Post by **PipkiN** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:03 pm

I agree with you, Nasko, but this can mean you can help somebody who ask for help.. Why you can choose between 2 bids ? Why it is not the highest ? Because when the one who asked for help has not the highest offer, he still has the chance of getting the player ?

I know, Nasko, that you are mentioned that you are fair-trading as most of the managers are.. But there are some, that uses this opportunity and sell the player to the lower offer ...

unicool · Post by **unicool** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:06 pm

WTF

when i sold players last season(in the break between seasons) i cannot accept another bid for my players.cross my heart...i can only accept the highest bid.

dejankol · Post by **dejankol** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:18 pm

There must been something else. From the picture it is clear that pipkin has three offers but he can't accept 100K one, only 200K and 225K. Maybe it is something about player salaries or difference in % between two bids.

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