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cup - more than 32768 teams

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:04 pm
by bunicutzu
There is no time to put 16 cup rounds and there is no rentability to put an extra round for 2-3.000 teams from a possible of extra 32768 (if there are 16 rounds there would be place for 65.536 teams meaning almost half of places would rest untaken).

For solution I propose that the first divisions (A,B - C if needed) to rest in the first round. they are way to good for the rest (H and G especially) and their championship is a lot difficult and could use a free day. in this way the lower leagues have more chances to get into higher rounds in the cup. It would be like in real life, the A (and B) league teams enter in the competition in the higher rounds not from the beginning of the cup.

That's my opinion.
Other opinions?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:22 pm
by Geronimo
Well there is a solution like yours already proposed in the dutch forum. We'll see what the designers of the game think of it. :wink:

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:19 pm
by robborover
how about having the first few rounds on a saturday simulation? then in the latter stages only play on wednesday simulations?

Re: cup - more than 32768 teams

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:17 pm
by Nasko
bunicutzu wrote: ...
For solution I propose that the first divisions (A,B - C if needed) to rest in the first round. they are way to good for the rest (H and G especially) and their championship is a lot difficult and could use a free day. in this way the lower leagues have more chances to get into higher rounds in the cup. It would be like in real life, the A (and B) league teams enter in the competition in the higher rounds not from the beginning of the cup.

That's my opinion.
Other opinions?
But thats not solution ?? :roll:
If someone rests in the first round on the next the team are actually going to be more.. Instead of two teams to play each other and promote only one of them, the both team are going to be on the next round.. :wink: This would help if one extra round was add..

So my suggestion(and the only solution, i think :roll: ) is an extra round ,bit if it is add on the first round 34 578 teams should rest (if the number of all the teams in SP stays on 36 388) :roll:

EDIT:
Also i would like to ask how are elected the 3620 teams who are not going to participate this season in the Cup.. Because if the rounds are only 15, the maximum number of teams who are able to be scheduled is only 2 on power 15 = 32 768.. Well the math is not letting us to put more than that number :).. So how do these 3620 teams were elected :?:

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:48 pm
by unicool
So how do these 3620 teams were elected
i think you heard about random.or maybe was the last 3620 teams subscribed in SP.....or the no manager teams and the last suscribed teams.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:52 pm
by Nasko
unicool wrote:
So how do these 3620 teams were elected
i think you heard about random.or maybe was the last 3620 teams subscribed in SP.....or the no manager teams and the last suscribed teams.
Yes i know about the random :) And the "random" makes that game interesting and unpredictable, but in that case.. there is no fair way to discriminate those teams?? :wink: :roll:

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:58 pm
by unicool
but in that case.. there is no fare way to discriminate those teams??
first came....first served.so the last suscribed teams have nothing to comment.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:05 pm
by Nasko
unicool wrote:
but in that case.. there is no fare way to discriminate those teams??
first came....first served.so the last suscribed teams have nothing to comment.
As you say.. there is way..
But you cant convince me that there is fair way :wink:
Ofcourse that the last subscribed teams are not going to reach far, but is it fair to stop them playing.. The football is for everyone and the game is also for everyone.. :wink:

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:27 pm
by unicool
Nasko wrote:
unicool wrote:
but in that case.. there is no fare way to discriminate those teams??
first came....first served.so the last suscribed teams have nothing to comment.
As you say.. there is way..
But you cant convince me that there is fair way :wink:
Ofcourse that the last subscribed teams are not going to reach far, but is it fair to stop them playing.. The football is for everyone and the game is also for everyone.. :wink:
but the resources are limited so the last subscribed managers have to understand that.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:52 pm
by Red_Army_Squad
I have a solution. Just ask the managers whether they want to play the cup or not.
I am in division F but i don't want to play any cup matches, so I let my B team play the match. I probably will lose 6-0 but I don't care cause i won't make the last 256 or something because my team isn't good enough for that.

Or make a E F G H and a D C B A Cup. Something like the Uefa Cup and the Champion league:lol:

Anyway I don't think the H teams who don't participate in the cup bother that!

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:37 am
by Nasko
Red_Army_Squad wrote:I have a solution. Just ask the managers whether they want to play the cup or not.
I am in division F but i don't want to play any cup matches, so I let my B team play the match. I probably will lose 6-0 but I don't care cause i won't make the last 256 or something because my team isn't good enough for that.
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I like the idea.. I guess it is too late to be implanted this season, but it would be really good improvement for the next edition..
It would be nice if you "subscribe" for the Cup.. This may also decrease the number of rounds instead of another increase..

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:47 am
by robborover
or set up another server and start a new soccer project there. lots of online games have many servers due to this sort of problem.