Searching players... (transfer)

[PipkiN]

@ rood:

http://forum.soccerproject.com/viewtopic.php?t=86395

Here is the topic on czech forum. You may see the poll there.
The poll is:

a) I am against, this will help lazy and rich clubs only, forcing other not to have good players
b) It's a great idea, I'd like it in the game, I hate clicking
c) I'm not interested, even I don't visit transfer list

As you may see after some 3 hours, the votes are 20:2:0, the majority is against for the same reasons as I am

[rood]

Yeap, 23-3-0 now!
Nothing else to be said! Isn't it Frrfrr?
Thank you Pipkin!
I gues this is the best way to prove our point.
Thanks again.

[frankie_doparoma]

@ rood:

http://forum.soccerproject.com/viewtopic.php?t=86395

Here is the topic on czech forum. You may see the poll there.
The poll is:

a) I am against, this will help lazy and rich clubs only, forcing other not to have good players
b) It's a great idea, I'd like it in the game, I hate clicking
c) I'm not interested, even I don't visit transfer list

As you may see after some 3 hours, the votes are 20:2:0, the majority is against for the same reasons as I am

Voting is manipulated storng propaganda against "Searching engine",.On forum appear babble that they earn on it "rich"team and those poorer will be worse on that. It is rubbish.


I am four-square for it

[PipkiN]

Anyway, any kind of searching engine is very heavy load for the server and this is other reason not to have it.

[Michal Kejchal]

@ rood:

http://forum.soccerproject.com/viewtopic.php?t=86395

Here is the topic on czech forum. You may see the poll there.
The poll is:

a) I am against, this will help lazy and rich clubs only, forcing other not to have good players
b) It's a great idea, I'd like it in the game, I hate clicking
c) I'm not interested, even I don't visit transfer list

As you may see after some 3 hours, the votes are 20:2:0, the majority is against for the same reasons as I am

Voting is manipulated storng propaganda against "Searching engine",.On forum appear babble that they earn on it "rich"team and those poorer will be worse on that. It is rubbish.

I am four-square for it

Hmm...its strange that votes are manipulated but nobody is able to argue logically to support "engine". You "argue" same way here as on czech forum

[rood]

@Michal
who's that?

[frankie_doparoma]

Hmm...its strange that votes are manipulated but nobody is able to argue logically to support "engine". You "argue" same way here as on czech forum

It was attempt to do a joke.(the first piece of my previous part), but I've still thought that the argument " the rich is going to be richer and poor is going to be poorer" it is nonsense(bull shit)
I don't think, I've a rich team ( maybeone day) Because I'm playing at "C" it could be reason why is somebody thinkihg that the theory about rich and poor it should be true!!!
When I was at "F" division I triedt his installed and so........

[Michal Kejchal]

It was attempt to do a joke.(the first piece of my previous part), but I've still thought that the argument " the rich is going to be richer and poor is going to be poorer" it is nonsense(bull shit)
I don't think, I've a rich team ( maybeone day) Because I'm playing at "C" it could be reason why is somebody thinkihg that the theory about rich and poor it should be true!!!
When I was at "F" division I triedt his installed and so........

Sorry...but you dont think you have some feelings...

[Frrfrr]

ok, so let me summarise, which people will suffer with this>

i would say mostly would suffer the people, who are online +2 hours a day.

but what i hear from the discussion in addition the most suffering ones are the ones who are unable to make themself rich even spending so much time online! lol thats funny ...
unability to beat others leads you to keep some fiction advantage. but even realising this advantage you are unable to become rich. so you jalous on others - mainly rich ones and you want to keep it as it is to keep the fiction ... i rofl you guys

i am sure the rich ones will be unaffected or get less rich, while they proly also +2hour online, although the prices would get more balance and therefore they will have not so good all trades

and the poor ones - they get more fair (higher) price for their good players.

i wonder guys you the ones you spend so much time unable still to get rich. why do you want to continue scumming noobs for their "gold" they got from the start? not even providing some tool which could help them to get a bit more fair money?

if this scum keeps you in game and gives you "the spell" of the game, then have you not realised the noobs suffer with it?

[unicool]

is good and is not good this add on.the ones who said that the rich ones are in B,C,D are wrong.maybe in A the teams have a lot of money but i know a lot of C,D,E teams with less than 1 milion in bank.and also know a G team with over 50 milions in bank.

[rood]

Extraordinary overview made by Frr in his “classical” way. OK, we are all dumb and retards, because we stay so much online, and he is smart, wise… a brilliant in his mind!
If I were you, I would write down an email to all sheriffs asking them to ban us, the idiots. It would go something like this: “Dear sheriffs, after a deep thinking I came up with this. A big percentage of the managers spend too much time online. In my attempt to save their time and to lower the traffic of this site I recommend to ban them all for the reason: not accepting Frrfrr’s improvement proposal. Please act in accordance with my recommendation, otherwise I will take another initiative of banning everybody, including the sheriffs for not obeying my suggestions. This way the traffic will drop nicely to zero, I will win every game, I will transfer every player I want for next to nothing money and the simulations will be like 2 minutes long. In one word: HEAVEN!
Sincerely, yours forever Frrfrr!”

Buddy, it was a pleasure debating with you, but I will end this right here, as everything became pointless. I wish you good luck in your attempt to make SP easier and save “other manager’s” time.

Regards

rood

[Michal Kejchal]

I agree with you rood that frr is hypocritical but it seems to be only a kind of game for him (or at least he thinks its). Im also tired of his loser theory. Implementing Freud and unconsciousness frr seems to be the biggest one (starting with stupid nick and team name...and ending with asocial communication)...

ok, so let me summarise, which people will suffer with this>
i would say mostly would suffer the people, who are online +2 hours a day.

Suffer will mainly active/ambitious/clever newcomers, because their chance to find hidden talents will be lowered. Its tragical mistake not to see it

but what i hear from the discussion in addition the most suffering ones are the ones who are unable to make themself rich even spending so much time online! lol thats funny ...

Examples of buying good player for a low price was mentioned by those who are able to earn money.

unability to beat others leads you to keep some fiction advantage. but even realising this advantage you are unable to become rich. so you jalous on others - mainly rich ones and you want to keep it as it is to keep the fiction ... i rofl you guys

Who do you talk about?

i am sure the rich ones will be unaffected or get less rich, while they proly also +2hour online, although the prices would get more balance and therefore they will have not so good all trades

balance = sterile

and the poor ones - they get more fair (higher) price for their good players.

"fair price" = solid demagogy Its up to each manager to sell player untrained or on a low moral. Another strategical feature partly phases out.

i wonder guys you the ones you spend so much time unable still to get rich. why do you want to continue scumming noobs for their "gold" they got from the start? not even providing some tool which could help them to get a bit more fair money?

Who do you talk about?

if this scum keeps you in game and gives you "the spell" of the game, then have you not realised the noobs suffer with it?

and some arguments...?

[robborover]

so are manchester united, chelsea, barcelona, milan and real madrid not allowed scouts because it helps them find better players?

it seems a weak argument to suggest that filters would only benefit teams with more money. there's 39971 managers at the time of this post and surely there's enough players to go round!!!!????? even h teams can afford good players if they play the game correctly.

also, it would help ease the situation where bids only arrive when your player has been on the list for 5+ days (and therefore on the first few pages).

[Michal Kejchal]

so are manchester united, chelsea, barcelona, milan and real madrid not allowed scouts because it helps them find better players?

But it has nothing common with filters. Now you have list of all players available. In reality it works different. Even contemporary system is much more comfortable than its in reality.

it seems a weak argument to suggest that filters would only benefit teams with more money. there's 39971 managers at the time of this post and surely there's enough players to go round!!!!????? even h teams can afford good players if they play the game correctly.

It was mentioned so many times. Briefly - Chance to find a hidden talent somewhere deen on TL is stronly lowered with filter. Sure, one manager cant buy them all but these (now hidden) players will by seen by more rich managers so their price will rise rapidly.

also, it would help ease the situation where bids only arrive when your player has been on the list for 5+ days (and therefore on the first few pages).

5+ days - it will be the same because many mangers do so to avoid to have freezed a lot of money for a long time - only fools bids real price first day.
Situation when main interest is concentrated on the first few pages seems to be quite natural matching reality.

[PipkiN]

What are the poll results on Czech part of the forum ?

63 managers AGAINST this feature
13 managers FOR this feature

I think that most managers don't want to add this feature. The "FOR" votes - some of them - were made by successful managers from high divisions (C,D)